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‘And THAT'S That!’: Zerlina Maxwell Breaks Down White Politics

The hosts spoke with author and TV host Zerlina Maxwell about the importance of identity and the future of Biden's presidency.

While President Donald Trump continues to spread misinformation about the 2020 election results, talk show host Zerlina Maxwell is calling for the end of white politics.

On “And THAT’s That!” this week, hosts Taryn Finley and Shaquille Romblay talk with Maxwell, author of “The End of White Politics: How to Heal Our Liberal Divide,” about the state of the union, the future of the Democratic Party, rising progressive stars such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rep.-elect Jamaal Bowman, and how Trump won the 2016 election.

“Donald Trump ran on identity politics,” Maxwell told HuffPost. “White is an identity, and he effectively exploited that in order to play to certain types of voters, frankly. He did that even more so in 2020, but I think in 2016, Americans were a little bit naive about the fact that he was playing to white identity with explicitly racist messaging.”

Finley and Romblay also talk about Aunty Dionne’s Twitter fingers and the Verzuz battle everyone’s waiting for: Ashanti versus Keyshia Cole.

Listen to the full episode below.

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