Kurtz framed Maddow as the new face and most high-profile voice of the network in the wake of Keith Olbermann's departure. (She is now MSNBC's most veteran prime-time host, having been on the air for a little under two-and-a-half years.) MSNBC President Phil Griffin seemed to agree with this assessment, calling Maddow's program "our biggest show."
For her part, Maddow told Kurtz she misses Olbermann, but said his departure "really wasn't about the rest of us" at MSNBC.
It is at least the third time Maddow has publicly addressed Olbermann's abrupt exit from MSNBC in January. She has also called him a "freaking successful" pioneer and, in an echo of her comments to Newsweek, told Bill Maher on the night of Olbermann's resignation that the situation "didn't involve any of the rest of us."
Maddow reserved her biggest fire in the interview for Fox News. "You can't really call yourself a news channel if that's what you broadcast," she said.
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