Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York and part of President Donald Trump’s, legal team, appeared to struggle with some details as he defended his client amid questions raised by an audiotape released Tuesday night.
At one point, he told Fox News host Laura Ingraham “Don’t quote me on that” while speaking on live television:
Giuliani was attempting to defend the president after the release of a 2016 audio in which Trump is heard speaking with Michael Cohen, who was his personal attorney at the time.
The two appeared to discuss buying the rights to the story of Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who claims she had an affair with Trump. Trump’s representatives at the time said they had “no knowledge of any of this.”
Giuliani had several other unusual moments in the interview.
Some believe the audio ― which is not clear ― indicates Trump wanted to pay cash. Giuliani claims the recording actually indicates otherwise and said anyone who would pay cash in this situation is “a complete idiot.”
“The president is not an idiot,” Giuliani said.
He also said there were three other “versions” of the tape that are “even worse” than what was released:
He did not elaborate on what he meant by “three other versions,” and Ingraham did not ask him about it.