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Week 2 Of Public Impeachment Hearings: Who's Testifying And When

The House is preparing to hear from nine witnesses during this week's televised hearings in the impeachment investigation into President Trump.

After a whirlwind first week of public hearings in the impeachment investigation into President Donald Trump, the House Intelligence Committee is preparing to hear from a whopping nine more witnesses this week.

The committee will conduct several televised hearings from Tuesday through Thursday this week. Tuesday and Wednesday will feature two hearings each (one in the morning and one in the afternoon), and Thursday will have one hearing. All of the witnesses called to publicly testify have already spoken to investigators in closed-door depositions.

The busy impeachment week comes after the committee heard last week from Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; George Kent, the deputy assistant secretary for Europe and Eurasian affairs; and Marie Yovanovitch, who was the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine before she was removed from her position earlier this year and replaced with Taylor.

House impeachment investigators are looking into whether Trump abused the power of his office and put personal interests above national security. The president is accused of withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine until the country’s President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed to publicly commit to investigating Trump’s 2020 political rival and former Vice President Joe Biden, as well as his son Hunter Biden. The impeachment inquiry began in September after an unnamed whistleblower from the intelligence community filed a complaint alleging that Trump and his allies tried to extort Ukraine in order to get himself reelected.

With the chaos that came from just three public witnesses in one week, this week’s nine witnesses are sure to test viewers’ stamina in keeping up with the investigation. Here is a brief look ahead of who is testifying this week and when, and what to keep an eye out on in their testimony:

 

TUESDAY MORNING:

 

Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman

Former National Security Council Director for European Affairs Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman returns to the Capitol to review tr
Former National Security Council Director for European Affairs Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman returns to the Capitol to review transcripts of his testimony in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, in Washington, Thursday, Nov. 7, 2019. 

Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman is the director for European affairs at the National Security Council, making him the White House’s top Ukraine expert. He’s also the first impeachment witness with firsthand knowledge of Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky because he was on the call.

The Iraq War veteran and Purple Heart recipient privately testified to lawmakers in October that he twice reported the call to the NSC’s lead counsel because he felt it was his duty to share his concerns about the alleged attempted extortion. He also said that the White House’s summary of the phone call had key omissions that raise questions about its handling, but do not change the basic contents of the call.

Trump tried to dismiss Vindman’s testimony by calling him a “Never Trumper witness,” and many of the president’s allies questioned his patriotism accusing him of being a double agent. Several Republicans defended Vindman in the face of such criticism.

Vindman’s firsthand account is expected to throw off Republicans’ current argument that House Democrats are not conducting a credible investigation because every witness called to testify so far has not been a direct witness to wrongdoing by the president. 

 

Jennifer Williams

Jennifer Williams, a special adviser to Vice President Mike Pence for Europe and Russia who is a career foreign service offic
Jennifer Williams, a special adviser to Vice President Mike Pence for Europe and Russia who is a career foreign service officer, leaves after a Nov. 7 closed-door interview at the Capitol in the impeachment inquiry on President Donald Trump's efforts to press Ukraine to investigate his political rival Joe Biden.

Jennifer Williams is a top special adviser to Vice President Mike Pence for Europe and Russia affairs, and a career foreign service officer at the State Department. She was also on Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky, making Tuesday morning’s public impeachment hearing one where lawmakers will hear from two witnesses with firsthand knowledge of the incident.

In her Nov. 7 closed-door deposition, Williams testified that Trump’s insistence that Ukraine conduct politically sensitive investigations “struck me as unusual and inappropriate.” She also said she heard Zelensky on the call mention Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden used to serve on the board of until earlier this year. The White House’s summary of the call did not include Zelensky’s mentioning Burisma, which Trump accused Joe Biden of inappropriately favoring while he was vice president.

Pence was originally supposed to attend Zelensky’s inauguration earlier this year but was ordered to skip it. Williams told lawmakers that she believed that order to have come directly from Trump.

On Sunday, Trump lashed out at Williams on Twitter, accusing her of participating in a “presidential attack” and calling her a “Never Trumper.” He also insinuated that he does not know who she is, despite being a high-level State Department official working under his vice president. 

 

TUESDAY AFTERNOON:

 

Kurt Volker

Kurt Volker, President Donald Trump's former special envoy to Ukraine, arrives Oct. 16 on Capitol Hill.
Kurt Volker, President Donald Trump's former special envoy to Ukraine, arrives Oct. 16 on Capitol Hill.

Kurt Volker was the State Department’s special envoy to Ukraine until he handed in his resignation Sept. 27 in response to his name being mentioned in the whistleblower complaint. 

Volker was the first witness called to privately testify in the impeachment investigation, in which he said he was not “fully in the loop” of Trump’s call with Zelensky. But text messages between him, Taylor and U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordan Sondland that Volker gave to Congress contradict that narrative, as the texts showed clear concern over the president’s withholding of military aid to Ukraine.

The former State Department official also testified that Ukrainian officials “asked to be connected” to Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani as a direct backdoor channel to Trump. The whistleblower complaint alleged that Volker set up the meeting between Giuliani and top Zelensky aide Andriy Yermak, and tried to advise Ukrainian officials on how to collaborate with Trump and his personal attorney.

Volker also personally told Giuliani that Yuriy Lutsenko, whose conspiracy theories were largely responsible for Yovanovitch’s ouster, was “not credible.”

 

Tim Morrison

Tim Morrison, the top Russia official on President Trump's National Security Council, gets off of an elevator as he returns t
Tim Morrison, the top Russia official on President Trump's National Security Council, gets off of an elevator as he returns to Capitol Hill to review his testimony before the House impeachment inquiry last week.

Tim Morrison was one of the top Russia experts for the National Security Council until he resigned Oct. 30, a day before his closed-door deposition with impeachment investigators.

The former NSC official testified that he was on Trump’s July 25 call and that he didn’t find anything “improper” about the contents of the call. Morrison still contacted then-national security adviser John Bolton and NSC lawyer John Eisenberg out of concern regarding potential leaks to the public. Morrison believed the NSC should have taken action to restrict access to the call transcript to prevent damage to U.S.-Ukraine relations, but testified that he was surprised to learn it was put on a high-level, top-secret server.

Morrison said he got a “sinking feeling” after he was told by Gordon Sondland that the EU ambassador had informed Ukrainian officials that a White House meeting and military aid were contingent on Zelensky publicly committing to an investigation into the Bidens. He also said Sondland told him he was acting on Trump’s direct orders.

Morrison also said he first alerted Taylor to concerns over the call by telling him Trump did not want to provide any security assistance at all to Ukraine. 

 

WEDNESDAY MORNING:

 

Gordon Sondland

U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland arrives at the Capitol.
U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland arrives at the Capitol.

Gordon Sondland is a Republican donor-turned-U.S. ambassador to the European Union who quickly became one of the most important key players in the impeachment investigation after several other witnesses cited his involvement in Trump’s backchannel to Ukraine relations.

Sondland initially testified in his closed-door deposition that he didn’t recall having any discussions about the Bidens, or taking part in encouraging an investigation into them. But after Taylor and Vindman contradicted Sondland’s testimony, he significantly amended his narrative Nov. 5 to say he told Zelensky’s aide Yermak that military funding was contingent on Ukraine publicly announcing an investigation into the Bidens, and that he knew it was illegal.

Taylor testified last week that an aide of his met with Sondland in Ukraine on July 26 when the ambassador took a phone call from Trump. That aide, later discovered to be David Holmes, alleges he heard Trump asking if Ukraine agreed to conduct the investigations he wanted, to which Sondland said Zelensky is “gonna do it.” The Associated Press later learned that a second U.S. Embassy staff member in Ukraine overheard Sondland’s call: Suriya Jayanti, a foreign service officer based in Kyiv.

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that emails reviewed by the newspaper showed Sondland kept several Trump officials ― like acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and Energy Secretary Rick Perry ― informed of his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

 

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON:

 

Laura Cooper

Laura Cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, returns to the Capitol on Oct. 30 to rev
Laura Cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, returns to the Capitol on Oct. 30 to review her testimony and documents from an appearance last week in the impeachment inquiry.

Laura Cooper is the deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia. Since the summer, Cooper pressured the Pentagon to get the military aid to Ukraine released and argued that withholding it was not in the U.S.’s national security interests.

The Pentagon also reportedly told the White House that the agency would not be able to spend all the military aid by Sept. 30 ― the end of the fiscal year ― if it was not released by Aug. 6, putting the Defense Department at risk of violating the Impoundment Control Act. It was reported Sept. 12 that the freeze on the aid was lifted.

In her closed-door deposition, Cooper said Volker led her to make a “very strong inference” that Ukrainian officials knew the U.S. was withholding military aid long before that was public information, and that Ukrainian leaders would not have committed to making a public statement on investigations unless they were doing so in exchange for “something valuable.”

“There were two specific things that the Government of Ukraine wanted during this time frame,” Cooper told lawmakers. “One was ... a hosted visit at the White House. And the other was Ukraine security assistance.”

 

David Hale

U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale 
U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale 

David Hale is the undersecretary of state for political affairs, making him the third-ranking official at the State Department.

In Hale’s closed-door deposition, the senior official told lawmakers that the State Department believed that publicly defending Yovanovitch when she was being disparaged and eventually recalled as ambassador to Ukraine would have hurt efforts to lift the freeze on nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. He also said that senior officials were concerned about Giuliani’s potential reaction to the State Department coming to Yovanovitch’s defense amid Trump’s smearing of the career diplomat.

Yovanovitch publicly testified about how Trump, Giuliani and conservative media launched a smear campaign on her reputation as a U.S. diplomat. She stressed that her ouster “had a chilling effect” on current department officials because it showed how diplomats and U.S. policy are vulnerable to foreign and private influence, and that the State Department “is being hollowed out from within at a competitive and complex time on the world stage.”

The former ambassador previously testified that when she went to senior State Department officials to seek a reaffirming public statement of support in response to the smear campaign, the department told her there was “caution about any kind of statement, because it could be undermined” by a Trump tweet.

 

THURSDAY:

 

Fiona Hill

Fiona Hill, the former White House adviser on Russia, arrives at the Capitol on Nov. 4 for a closed-door meeting as part of t
Fiona Hill, the former White House adviser on Russia, arrives at the Capitol on Nov. 4 for a closed-door meeting as part of the House impeachment inquiry.

Fiona Hill was the former top policy adviser on Russia for the National Security Council for about two years until she resigned in July. She was reportedly told as early as May that there was a pressure campaign by Sondland and Giuliani on Ukraine’s government, according to NBC News.

The former NSC official told lawmakers in her closed-door deposition that she considered Sondland to be a national security risk because of his inexperience as the Trump-appointed EU ambassador. She also said that Sondland had talked in front of her about how he had an agreement with Mulvaney for a meeting with Ukrainian officials.

Hill testified that Sondland had told her he was “in charge of Ukraine.” When she asked him who authorized such a change, she said Sondland told her: “the president.”

After learning about Sondland and Giuliani’s shadow diplomacy, Hill reportedly briefed Bolton, her boss at the time. Bolton later described what Hill told him as a kind of “drug deal.” Both Hill and Bolton were reportedly so alarmed by the shadow diplomacy that she alerted White House lawyers.

 

David Holmes

David Holmes, a career diplomat and the political counselor at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, leaves the Capitol on Friday afte
David Holmes, a career diplomat and the political counselor at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, leaves the Capitol on Friday after a deposition before congressional lawmakers as part of the House impeachment inquiry.

Holmes is the political counsel at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine and an aide to Taylor. He got roped into the impeachment investigation after Taylor mentioned at his public hearing that his aide overheard Sondland on the phone with Trump saying Zelensky will cooperate in investigating the Bidens. That aide was later discovered to be Holmes.

The career diplomat gave a closed-door deposition on Friday, where he reportedly confirmed he overheard a phone call between Sondland and Trump on July 26 ― the day after the president’s now-infamous call with Zelensky. Holmes said he was at a restaurant with Sondland in Kyiv during the call when he could hear Trump asking Sondland if the Ukrainian president would conduct an investigation into the Bidens, to which Sondland said that Zelensky would do “anything you ask him to.”

After the call ― which Holmes said others at the restaurant could probably hear because Sondland held the phone away from his ear due to Trump talking loudly ― the EU ambassador told Holmes that Trump does not “give a shit about Ukraine,” according to the aide’s deposition. When Holmes reportedly stressed the importance of the U.S. relationship with Ukraine, Sondland clarified he meant issues that personally benefit the president, like the “Biden investigation.”

Holmes’s private testimony appeared to contradict Sondland’s narrative about his interactions with the president, as the EU ambassador never mentioned the July 26 phone call in his sworn deposition.

The aide’s public testimony will increase the significance of Thursday’s hearing as House Democrats consider Holmes a witness with firsthand knowledge of wrongdoing. 

This article has been updated with information about David Holmes’ expected testimony and with details from Tim Morrison’s testimony.

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