What To Expect From The Second Public Jan. 6 Committee Hearing

The focus of the hearing will be that Trump and his allies knew he lost but pushed election fraud lies anyway.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol will hold a second public hearing Monday as it continues to present its findings related to former President Donald Trump’s role in the violence that day.

The hearing was scheduled to start at 10 a.m. ET, but the committee said Monday it would be delayed about 30 to 45 minutes as one of the witnesses dropped out.

The first hearing aired for two hours on prime-time television on Thursday and drew 20 million viewers. All broadcast and cable news networks except Fox News carried the hearing live.

The committee has six public hearings planned in total, and at least one more will be during prime time.

During the first hearing, the committee released never-before-seen video of the violence and showed testimony from former Attorney General William Barr and Ivanka Trump, Trump’s daughter and former White House adviser.

Trump responded to the first hearing with a barrage of messages on his Truth Social app, his main method of communicating with supporters since he was banned from Twitter for spreading election falsehoods.

You can catch up here on the big moments you might have missed from the first hearing. Here’s what to expect from the next round:

The focus of the hearing will be that Trump and his allies knew he lost but pushed election fraud lies anyway

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the committee’s vice chair, said last week that the second hearing will show that Trump and his advisers knew he lost the election to President Joe Biden, but that, despite this, Trump “engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to convince huge portions of the U.S. population that fraud had stolen the election from him.”

Barr’s testimony aired Thursday already touched on this point. Barr said he told Trump his claims around election fraud were “bullshit” and that he did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen.

We can expect more testimony and findings from people in Trump’s orbit saying they told him he had lost the election and there was no evidence to support Trump’s allegations.

The committee will also focus on the fundraising that Trump’s team brought in leading up to the events of Jan. 6, a source told the Associated Press.

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) said Sunday that the committee could “prove to any reasonable, open-minded person that Donald Trump absolutely knew” he lost.

“Any reasonable person in America will tell you, he had to have known he was spreading a big lie, and he continues to spread it to this very day,” Raskin told CNN.

Bill Stepien, Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, was scheduled to appear but his counsel will appear instead

The committee on Monday said that Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager in 2020, is unable to attend the hearing due to a “family emergency” and his counsel would appear and give a statement instead.

The change will delay the hearing’s start time by about 30 to 45 minutes, it said.

Stepien was subpoenaed by the committee in November 2021. In the committee’s letter to him, they said Stepien “supervised the conversion of the Trump presidential campaign to an effort focused on ‘Stop the Steal’ messaging and related fundraising.”

The committee said the messaging “included the promotion of certain false claims related to voting machines despite an internal campaign memo in which campaign staff determined such claims were false.”

Stepien is now an adviser to Trump-endorsed House candidate in Wyoming, Harriet Hageman, who is challenging Cheney.

Conservative Republican election attorney Ben Ginsberg will reportedly testify there was no evidence of widespread fraud

In this June 23, 2012, file photo, campaign counsel Ben Ginsberg walks at a private donors' conference for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney at The Chateaux at Silver Lake at Deer Valley Resort in Park City, Utah.
In this June 23, 2012, file photo, campaign counsel Ben Ginsberg walks at a private donors' conference for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney at The Chateaux at Silver Lake at Deer Valley Resort in Park City, Utah.
AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File

Ben Ginsberg, a Republican attorney who is considered an expert on elections, will testify there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, according to CNN. He will also testify on the many failed legal challenges by Trump’s team.

CNN cited sources on Ginsberg’s testimony, as the committee investigating Jan. 6 hasn’t publicly released the names of those testifying.

Ginsberg played a crucial role in the 2000 presidential recount and defeat of Al Gore to George W. Bush.

He also criticized Trump in a November 2020 opinion piece in The Washington Post, saying Trump had launched an “all-out, multimillion-dollar effort to disenfranchise voters.”

It will include testimony from Chris Stirewalt, a fired Fox News editor who called Arizona for Biden

Chris Stirewalt, a former Fox News political editor, is set to testify Monday.

While Stirewalt said he couldn’t discuss exactly what his testimony will be, it should be related to the committee’s theme of what Trump and his team knew versus how they acted.

Stirewalt was fired from the network in January 2021 after receiving right-wing backlash to his decision to call Arizona for Biden on election night 2020, which reportedly infuriated Trump.

Stirewalt defended his decision in an editorial in the Los Angeles Times in January 2021 and criticized American media. “Having been cosseted by self-validating coverage for so long, many Americans now consider any news that might suggest that they are in error or that their side has been defeated as an attack on them personally,” he wrote.

While the first hearing provided an overview, we will get more details in the second and subsequent hearings

Committee member Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) on Sunday touched on the amount of misinformation that flooded the zone around the time of the Jan. 6 attack and continues to be pervasive.

Kinzinger said Thursday’s hearing was meant to be a top-line look at what happened. He also responded to Trump’s claim that the president tried to reach out to the National Guard during the violence after testimony showed then-Vice President Mike Pence had to jump in when the president wouldn’t.

“I think it’s very obvious that the president didn’t do anything but gleefully watch television when this was going down,” Kinzinger told CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

This story has been updated with information on Stepien’s appearance and the hearing start time.

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