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Ralph Goodale Fires Back At Joe Oliver Over 'Bitter' Attacks On Pierre Trudeau

Grits take aim at Harper, charging he has lowest growth rate of any PM since R.B. Bennett during the Great Depression
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OTTAWA — Former finance minister Ralph Goodale gave an impassioned defence of the Liberals’ economic record Tuesday after recent attacks by the Harper Conservatives suggested that the party would plunge Canada back into spiralling deficits like those of the 1970s.

He kept the door open, however, to a new Trudeau government’s running future deficits.

Speaking at a Canada 2020 event, Goodale, Canada’s finance minister from 2003 to 2006, said current Finance Minister Joe Oliver’s recent “remarkably bitter” comments about Pierre Elliott Trudeau’s economic record ignored the Conservatives’ own history.

“[Oliver] forgot the OPEC oil crisis of that decade. He forgot [Progressive Conservative prime minister] John Diefenbaker's six consecutive deficits a decade earlier. He forgot that only one Conservative prime minister in the entire 20th century actually managed to balance a budget. That was Robert Borden, the year was 1912, and it lasted for just one year,” Goodale told the Liberal-friendly crowd, many of whom have been waiting months to hear a similar speech.

“More importantly, Mr. Oliver forgot that more than two-thirds of all the federal debt outstanding in Canada today can be attributed to the deficits accumulated by Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper,” Goodale said. “Mr. Harper alone has added $4,400 in new Harper-debt for every man, woman and child in Canada.”

Compare that, he said, with the Liberal record.

Goodale said when the Liberals came to power in 1993 after defeating Brian Mulroney, they inherited a $40 billion annual deficit and a debt ratio that was 70 per cent of GDP. “Just serving that debt was sucking up fully one-third of all government revenues.”

Within three years, Goodale said, the Liberals had eliminated the deficit, ushered in a decade of surplus budgets, paid down the debt and slashed the debt-ratio in half, cut taxes and safeguarded the banking system. He also said the Liberals had increased transfers to the provinces, although he glanced over the part where the Grits first slashed them.

Times were great, Goodale suggested. The economy was growing, millions of new jobs were created.

Fast forward to 2006, he said, when Prime Minister Stephen Harper inherited a $13 billion annual surplus. In less than three years, the country is back on the verge of deficits once again, Goodale said. “That was before — not because of — the recession, which arrived in the latter part of 2008.

“The recession made it worse, but it was Stephen Harper who made us vulnerable in the first place.”

Oliver’s spokeswoman Melissa Lantsman told The Huffington Post Canada the Liberals wanted the federal government to incur an even larger deficit program during the 2008 recession.

“[That] would have meant we would still be coping with a deficit and massively greater debt,” she said.

Furthermore, she said, it was the Conservatives who restored long-term predictable funding to the provinces and territories with a “62 per cent increase over Mr. Goodale’s last budget” after the Liberals gutted transfer payments.

Nevertheless, in his speech, Goodale said the Tories’ economic growth record is the worst growth rate of any prime minister since R.B. Bennett during the Great Depression in the 1930s. He called it “Harper’s diminished decade.”

Job creation is weak, job quality is on the decline, median after-tax family income is largely flat, and household debt is at a record high, Goodale said.

The Conservatives, the Liberal deputy leader asserted, have no plan for growth and their only goal is tax breaks for the few — mostly wealthy Canadians.

The Liberals, he said, would scrap income splitting and invest in infrastructure, education and scientific research.

“There’s more to come,” he said. “The ideas I’ve offered this morning are just a beginning.”

Asked by The Huffington Post if the Liberals were leaving the door open to running a deficit, Goodale gave a cautious yes. The Liberals will study the numbers in the Tories’ budget next Tuesday, its economic assumptions – including the price of oil – and consult external economists, he said.

“Fiscal responsibility will be an absolute fundamental in how we put together our platform,” he said. “How will all the pieces work together? We’ll have to await the platform itself… [but] there will be no doubt about our fiscal credentials.”

Goodale called the Conservatives’ upcoming balanced-budget legislation a “gimmick” designed to “besmirch” the Liberals’ reputation. Oliver recently announced that the Tories will introduce legislation forcing future federal governments to post balanced budgets.

If the Tories run a campaign saying the Liberals don’t support a balanced budget, Goodale said, the Grits will be ready to fire back.

“The answer to that is very clear. Who has been in office for the last nine years? Who has delivered seven consecutive deficits? Who has saddled the country with $150 billion of new debt? It’s Stephen Harper. It’s entirely hypocritical for him now to say suddenly that we are going to have balanced-budget legislation. He would have been offside of his own legislation for five of the last seven years.”

The Liberals plan to trumpet their economic record with speeches by MPs Marc Garneau, Scott Brison, John McCallum and Grit candidate – and rumoured future finance minister – Bill Moreau across the country with speeches in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and Calgary in the days to come.

“As the election gets closer and closer, we get better at putting the message together,” Goodale told HuffPost.

“What we maybe take for granted, in terms of Liberal credentials about the economy, needs to be restated and rehighlighted, even though we think it’s obvious. It may not be obvious or so obvious to as many other people.”

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Prime Minister Trudeau and his then-wife Margaret leave the city's Notre Dame Basilica Sunday afternoon after the christening of their 22-day old infant Justin Pierre James, Jan. 16, 1972. Tasseled shawls kept the baby hidden from photographers and the 10-degree-below-zero weather. (credit:CP/RCM)
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Eleven-month-old Justin Trudeau, urged on by his mother Margaret Trudeau, crawls up the steps of an aircraft in Ottawa Dec. 5, 1972 to meet his father, then-prime minister, Pierre Trudeau on his return from Britain. (credit:Russell Mant/CP)
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Pierre Trudeau is saluted by RCMP Officer as he carries son Justin to Rideau Hall in 1973. Justin Trudeau teared up when he was presented with a framed copy while visiting Loyalist College in 2013. (credit:Peter Bregg/CP)
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Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau delivers a right hook to his older brother Justin during a play fight in 1980 at Ottawa airport as the boys await a flight with the return of their father, then-prime minister, Pierre Trudeau. Nobody was injured. Justin was born in 1971 and Sacha in 1973 - both on Christmas day. (credit:Peter Bregg/CP)
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March 1979 photo of the Trudeau children: Michel (front), Alexandre (Sacha) and Justin (rear). (credit:CP)
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It was a big day for Dad, but a long day for the three Trudeau children. Left to right, Justin, Michel and Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau attended the swearing in ceremonies of their father Pierre Elliott Trudeau as Prime Minister March 3, 1980 at Government House. (credit:Ron Poling/CP)
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Then-prime minister Pierre Trudeau and 10 year-old son Justin walk toward a plane at CFB Ottawa on Nov. 7, 1982. (credit:Chris Schwarz/CP)
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Then-prime minister Pierre Trudeau, left, watches as his 11-year-old son Justin swings on a chain during a tour of an old fort in the Omani town of Nizwa Dec. 2, 1983. Trudeau and Justin spent the day visiting the towns of Jebel and Nizwa 165 kilometres south of Muscat. (credit:Andy Clark/CP Photo)
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Then-prime minister Pierre Trudeau's 11-year-old son Justin jumps off an old cannon while visiting a fort along with his father in the Omani town of Nizwa and Jebel. (credit:Andy Clark/CP)
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Justin Trudeau and friend Mathieu Walker in the Sahara desert in October, 1994. (credit:Mathieu Walker)
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Justin Trudeau and friend Mathieu Walker in the Sahara desert in October, 1994. (credit:Mathieu Walker)
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Justin Trudeau with friends Mathieu Walker and Allen Steverman in Shanghai in 1994. (credit:Mathieu Walker)
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Justin Trudeau with friends Mathieu Walker (left) and Allen Steverman (centre) at the Great Wall of China in 1994. (credit:Mathieu Walker)
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Former prime minister Pierre Trudeau (L), his son, Alexandre (Sacha), ex-wife Margaret Kemper and son Justin weep as they leave a memorial service for their son Michel in Montreal in 1998. Michel Trudeau drowned after being swept into a lake during an avalanche in British Columbia. (credit:CP)
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Justin (left) and Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau lean out of the funeral train to show appreciation to mourners who turned out to pay their respects to former prime minister Pierre Trudeau in Dorval, Que., Monday Oct. 2, 2000. Trudeau's casket was moved from Ottawa to Montreal for a state funeral. () (credit:Adrian Wyld/CP)
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Justin Trudeau is consoled by his mother Margaret after reading the eulogy for his father, former prime minister Pierre Trudeau during his state funeral in Montreal, Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2000. (credit:Paul Chiasson/CP)
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Justin Trudeau delivers a eulogy for his late father Pierre Trudeau during the state funeral for the former prime minister at the Notre-Dame Basilica in Montreal, Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2000. Trudeau first caught the public heartstrings in October 2000, when he delivered a moving, deeply felt eulogy for his legendary father, weaving an emotional spell from inside the cavernous Notre-Dame Basilica in Montreal. (credit:Paul Chiasson/CP)
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Justin Trudeau breaks down on his father's casket after reading the eulogy during the state funeral for former prime minister Pierre Trudeau Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2000 in Montreal. (credit:Paul Chiasson/CP)
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Justin Trudeau gives a rose to a young girl, one of thousands of mourners who stood outside Notre-Dame Basillica in Montreal Tuesday, October 3, 2000 during a state funeral for his father, former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau. (credit:Andre Forget/CP)
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An enthusiastic Justin Trudeau talks to reporters during a news conference to promote avalanche awareness in West Vancouver Thursday Jan. 25, 2001. (credit:Chuck Stoody/CP)
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Justin Trudeau stands at the base of a mountain near the evidence of a controlled avalanche at Lake Louise, Alberta, Friday January 12, 2002. (credit:Adrian Wyld/CP)
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Trudeau with adviser and friend Gerald Butts in July 2003 at Virginia Falls, Nahanni National Park Reserve in the Northwest Territories. (credit:Gerald Butts)
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Justin Trudeau carves through a gate during a celebrity slalom race in Mont Tremblant, Que. Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. Trudeau was taking part in a 24-hour ski-a-thon for charity organized by Jacques Villeneuve and Villeneuve's manager Craig Pollock. (credit:Ryan Remiorz/CP)
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Justin Trudeau spoke to students as Sisler High School about the benefits of joining the Katimavik Project on March 9, 2004 (credit:Wayne Glowaki/Winnipeg Free Press/CP)
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Justin Trudeau, son of the late prime minister Pierre Trudeau, leaves with his new bride Sophie Gregoire in his father's 1959 Mercedes 300 SEL after their marriage ceremony in Montreal Saturday, May 28, 2005. (credit:Ryan Remiorz/CP)
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Sophie Gregoire waves to the crowd as she arrives for her wedding to Justin Trudeau, son of the late prime minister Pierre Trudeau, in Montreal Saturday, May 28, 2005. (credit:Ryan Remiorz/CP)
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Then-leadership candidate Stéphane Dion crosses paths with Justin Trudeau, a supporter of Gerard Kennedy, at the Liberal Leadership Convention on Nov. 30, 2006 in Montreal. The day after he won the leadership, Dion told Trudeau he needed his help and urged him to run. (credit:CP PHOTO/Ryan Remiorz)
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Former prime minister Jean Chretien meets Justin Trudeau at the Liberal leadership convention, Friday, Dec. 1, 2006, in Montreal. (credit:Tom Hanson/CP)
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Justin Trudeau poses in London, Ont., on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 with a group of youth who participated in the Katimavik national youth service program that he has been actively involved in. The funny faces came from a request by a parent taking a photograph. (credit:Dave Chidley/CP)
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Justin Trudeau raises his arms in victory after being voted in as the Liberal representative in Montreal's Papineau riding, on April 29, 2007. (credit:Robert J. Galbraith/CP)
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Justin Trudeau, then Liberal candidate for the riding of Papineau, on the campaign trail with his mother, Margaret, in Montreal on Sept. 23, 2008. Trudeau snatched the riding from the Bloc Québécois by 1,189 votes. (credit:CP/ Graham Hughes)
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Liberal Justin Trudeau, then a candidate in the riding of Papineau, on the campaign trail in Montreal, Tuesday Sept. 23, 2008 with his mother, Margaret. (credit:Graham Hughe/CP)
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Senator Patrick Brazeau, right, and Liberal MP Justin Trudeau take part in a weigh-in for a upcoming boxing match Wednesday March 28, 2012, in Ottawa. (credit:Fred Chartrand/CP)
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