Carnival Lawsuits: Passengers Have Little Cause To Sue, Lawyers Say

Why Carnival Passengers Should Think Twice Before Suing
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Workers look in the direction of the cruise ship Carnival Triumph in Mobile, Ala., Friday, Feb. 15, 2013. The ship, which Thursday docked in Mobile after drifting nearly powerless in the Gulf of Mexico for five days, was moved Friday from the cruise terminal to a repair facility. The ship carrying more than 4,200 passengers and crew members had been idled for nearly a week in the Gulf of Mexico following an engine room fire. (AP Photo/Dave Martin)

By Tom Hals

Feb 15 (Reuters) - After four days on a crippled cruise ship with overflowing toilets, stifling heat and hours-long waits for food, at least one passenger from the Carnival Triumph is seeking legal revenge.

But lawyers familiar with cruise ship lawsuits suggest angry passengers should think twice before rushing to the courts. Unless passengers suffered major injuries or other losses due to negligence by the cruise operator, they would be better off accepting compensation from Carnival Corp, they said.

The Carnival Triumph was towed into port in Mobile, Alabama, late on Thursday, giving disembarking passengers an opportunity to speak out about their ordeal.

Within hours, Cassie Terry, of Brazoria County, Texas, filed a lawsuit in federal court in Miami describing the ship as "a floating toilet, a floating Petri dish, a floating hell" and seeking damages from Carnival Corp.

As the ship listed as it was being towed, Terry was in constant fear of contracting serious illness from raw sewage spilling from non-functioning toilets. She had to wade through human feces to reach food lines that were hours long, only to receive spoiled rations, according to the lawsuit.

But Terry's account and those of other passengers do not describe the type of injuries or harm that could lead to a successful lawsuit, according to attorneys who specialize in suing cruise companies.

Conditions might have been disgusting "but get over it," said Miriam Lebental, an attorney from San Pedro, California, who specializes in cruise ship injuries.

Like other attorneys that pursue cruise companies, she said she would not be interested in taking a case unless it involved a major injury and negligence, such as a passenger breaking their neck during a fall down an unlit stairwell.

There have been no such reports from the Triumph.

Terry declined to comment. Her attorney, Brenton Allison of Gilman & Allison in Pearland, Texas, said he understood that other attorney's were skeptical about taking cases from passengers, but his client was nauseated and running a fever.

"I don't know what may manifest from her exposure to those conditions," he said, adding that Terry would decline the compensation offered.

Carnival has offered passengers $500, reimbursed their transportation and many onboard costs and given them a credit toward a future cruise equal to the amount they paid for the Triumph vacation.

Jim Walker, a premier lawyer for cruise passengers, said passengers would be wise to take the money.

"It's more than any attorney could get for them," said Walker, a partner at Walker & O'Neill in South Miami, Florida.

The cruise industry has become adept at using tickets, which are binding contracts, to limit their liability and define how a passenger can sue the cruise company, the lawyers said.

These tickets are "the most onerous one-sided terms and conditions," said Walker. "It's difficult to sue them."

For example, the tickets for the Costa Concordia, which hit rocks off the coast of Italy in January 2012 and killed 32, required passengers to sue in Italy.

Several cases brought in Miami federal court by Concordia passengers were dismissed for that reason.

In the case of the Triumph, the tickets likely contain similar language that require that lawsuits be brought in federal court in Miami, regardless of where the passenger lives.

The cruise industry has said that such "forum selection" clauses in cruise tickets help keep down costs for cruise operators by corralling all litigation in one court.

Walker said it gives the cruise industry leverage.

"It's like built-in home court advantage for the Miami Heat," he added.

Carnival, which is the parent company to both the Triumph and the Concordia, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Cruise companies have also been able to limit their liability for accidents that occur during shore excursions or for the negligence of ship staff.

That is because the cruise companies use outside companies to handle activities such as parasailing, even when the staff leading the excursions wear shirts or hats bearing the insignia of the cruise company.

Cruise tickets often state that harm caused during excursions must be brought against the company that provided the activity.

Many staff doctors or masseuses are independent contractors and passengers must sue them, not the cruise line, and staff often do not have insurance and frequently are not Americans.

"If the ship doctor kills you, your family has to chase the doctor in South Africa or the Middle East or India, which is exceedingly difficult, if not impossible," Walker added.

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10 Best States To Sue A Company
10. Florida(01 of10)
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2012 score: 55.3Treatment of class-action suits: 9th worstDamages: 10th worstAdmissibility of evidence: 9th worst 17th worstJudges' impartiality: 17th worstIn each of the past three surveys, Florida was rated as one of the 10 worst states by the lawyers surveyed by the Institute for Legal Reform. In this year's survey, Florida has been rated the eighth-worst state for companies looking for the prompt dismissal of a case. Respondents were also dissatisfied with how the state's legal system assessed damages, with 61% of respondents giving Florida a C grade or worse. In a statement, Lisa A. Rickard, president of the ILR, said, "Florida's litigation climate can be attributed in large part to its notorious reputation for exorbitant jury awards." Tom Donohue, president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, similarly described the state's jury awards as "ridiculously high."Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:AP)
9. Oklahoma(02 of10)
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2012 score: 55.0Treatment of class-action suits: 11th worstDamages: 8th worstAdmissibility of evidence: 10th worstJudges' impartiality: 10th worstThe corporate attorneys who responded to the survey are not big fans of Oklahoma's court rules regarding damages. Only 7 percent of respondents gave the state an A in this area, while 34 percent gave it a D or F. This comes despite Oklahoma enacting tort reform in 2011 that included a $350,000 cap on noneconomic damages in civil liability cases. In fact, the Tulsa World reported in July that malpractice judgments against defendants are at a 10-year low due to these policies. Lawyers gave the highest marks to the state for "having and enforcing meaningful venue requirement," which measures factors such as how easy it is to bring in a case in a pro-plaintiff jurisdiction. Of the respondents, 46 percent gave the state an A or a B in that regard.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kay_County_Oklahoma_Courthouse_by_Smallchief.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kay_County_Oklahoma_Courthouse_by_Smallchief.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="35" data-vars-position-in-unit="35">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Smallchief" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Smallchief" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Smallchief" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="36" data-vars-position-in-unit="36">Smallchief</a>)
8. Alabama(03 of10)
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2012 score: 52.8 Treatment of class-action suits: 8th worst Damages: 5th worst Admissibility of evidence: 8th worst Judges' impartiality: 4th worst Alabama's corporate attorneys had numerous concerns about how litigation was handled in the state. In particular, respondents to the ILR survey were dissatisfied with how the state determined and enforced rules for filing and trying lawsuits within the state, with 55 percent of respondents giving Alabama a grade of C or worse. Respondents also disliked how the state assessed damages, with almost two-thirds providing a grade of C or lower, and 15 percent or respondents giving Alabama an F. Of all the measures, lawyers gave judicial impartiality the lowest score.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marengo_Alabama_Courthouse.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marengo_Alabama_Courthouse.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="30" data-vars-position-in-unit="30">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Altairisfar" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Altairisfar" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Altairisfar" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="31" data-vars-position-in-unit="31">Altairisfar</a>)
7. New Mexico(04 of10)
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2012 score: 52.7 Treatment of class-action suits: 6th worst Damages: 7th worst Admissibility of evidence: 6th worstJudges' impartiality: 7th worst Only 2 percent of respondents gave New Mexico an A for the overall state grade. Meanwhile, 45 percent gave the state a C, while 26 percent gave it either a D or an F. In terms of fairness in assessing damages, 15 percent gave the state an F and an additional 13 percent gave the state a D. The American Medical Association notes that the state has a $600,000 cap on total damages, excluding punitive damages and the cost of medical care. The state also received a low score for treatment of class-action suits, with 21 percent of respondents giving the state a grade of D or F. The issue of class-action suits made headlines in New Mexico in Oct. 2011 when state judge James Browning allowed a class-action suit against credit rating agencies to proceed. Similar attempts to file suits against the agencies regarding the claims they made on mortgage-backed securities previously failed.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bernalillo_County_New_Mexico_Courthouse.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bernalillo_County_New_Mexico_Courthouse.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="27" data-vars-position-in-unit="27">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AllenS" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="AllenS" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AllenS" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="28" data-vars-position-in-unit="28">AllenS</a>)
6. Montana(05 of10)
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2012 score: 52.2Treatment of class-action suits: 19th worstDamages: 9th worstAdmissibility of evidence: 5th worst Judges' impartiality: 5th worst Corporate lawyers gave Montana's legal system a big thumbs-down, as 13 percent of survey respondents gave the state an overall F rating, while just 6 percent rated the state an A. Reviews were even worse when attorneys were asked to give their opinion on how well tort and contract cases were handled -- 20 percent of respondents gave the state an F, while just 7 percent were A ratings. Judges in the state were also rated poorly by attorneys, who ranked both the impartiality and competence of Montana judges as being inferior to all-but four other states.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Glacier_County_Courthouse_in_Cut_Bank,_Montana.JPG" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Glacier_County_Courthouse_in_Cut_Bank,_Montana.JPG" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="24" data-vars-position-in-unit="24">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Oporto2" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Oporto2" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Oporto2" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="25" data-vars-position-in-unit="25">Oporto2</a>)
5. Illinois(06 of10)
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2012 score: 51.3 Treatment of class-action suits: 4th worst Damages: 4th worst Admissibility of evidence: 15th worst Judges' impartiality: 6th worst Compared to other states, Illinois scored the worst for having and enforcing meaningful venue requirements, which can limit forum shopping, ranking second lowest in that category behind West Virginia. The American Tort Reform Association consistently labels both Madison County and St. Clair County as one of a handful of "judicial hellholes" because they host litigation that originates outside of the state. The group notes that the counties are magnets for both asbestos and pharmaceutical litigation. According to the ILR, Chicago/Cook County was considered the jurisdiction with the "least fair and reasonable litigation environment," while Madison County was considered the sixth-worst jurisdiction.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_County_Illinois_Courthouse_Monument.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_County_Illinois_Courthouse_Monument.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="21" data-vars-position-in-unit="21">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dual%20Freq" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Dual Freq" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dual%20Freq" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="22" data-vars-position-in-unit="22">Dual Freq</a>)
4. California(07 of10)
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2012 score: 50.6Treatment of class-action suits: the worstDamages: 2nd-worstAdmissibility of evidence: 12th-worstJudges' impartiality: 11th-worstRegarding jurisdictions with legal environments that are the "least fair and reasonable," 16 percent of corporate lawyers mentioned Los Angeles, 9 percent mentioned San Francisco, and another 9 percent mentioned California but did not specify a jurisdiction. In a video statement, Donohue contends that "Los Angeles is the worst city in America, from a legal perspective, to have a business ... and San Francisco is not far behind." Respondents especially disapproved of how the state treated class action lawsuits, giving it the worst rating nationwide. Additionally, respondents criticized how the state assessed damages, giving it the second-worst rating nationwide. In one particular case, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, Philip Morris was ordered in 2009 to pay $13.8 million in punitive damages for causing the addiction and death of a 45 year-old smoker. The second court of appeals in Los Angeles upheld the ruling in 2011.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auburn_California_courthouse.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auburn_California_courthouse.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="16" data-vars-position-in-unit="16">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Marcbela" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Marcbela" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Marcbela" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="17" data-vars-position-in-unit="17">Marcbela</a>)
3. Mississippi(08 of10)
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2012 score: 46.6Treatment of class-action suits: 3rd-worstDamages: 6th-worstAdmissibility of evidence: 3rd-worstJudges' impartiality: 2nd-worstOnly 3 percent of the survey respondents gave the state an A for its handling of tort and contract litigation, while 35 percent of respondents gave the state a D or F. Respondents also showed concerns about the fairness of judges and juries in the state. The state was rated the worst in judge competence and jury fairness, with 14 percent and 17 percent of respondents giving it an F in both measures. The state was ranked the sixth-worst in terms of how it assesses damages, with 33 percent of respondents grading it a D or an F. Currently, the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals is determining whether the a state law limiting noneconomic damages in civil cases to $1 million is constitutional.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinson_County_Mississippi_Courthouse.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinson_County_Mississippi_Courthouse.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="10" data-vars-position-in-unit="10">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ichabod" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Ichabod" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ichabod" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="11" data-vars-position-in-unit="11">Ichabod</a>)
2. Louisiana(09 of10)
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2012 score: 46.5 Treatment of class-action suits: 2nd-worst Damages: 3rd-worstAdmissibility of evidence: 2nd-worstJudges' impartiality: 3rd-worstAccording to Rickard, "despite recent positive developments, Louisiana is still notorious for excessive verdicts, loose class-certification standards, and an unfair judiciary." These assertions correspond to how corporate lawyers feel about the state, which ranked third-worst among all states for how it assessed damages, second-worst to California for how it accepted and handled class action lawsuits, and third-worst for both judicial impartiality and competence. Further, for each of the 10 measures the ILR used to assess states' legal systems, Louisiana was rated among the worst five states.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JeffersonMemorialGretnaCourthouse.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JeffersonMemorialGretnaCourthouse.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="6" data-vars-position-in-unit="6">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Infrogmation" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Infrogmation" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Infrogmation" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="7" data-vars-position-in-unit="7">Infrogmation</a>)
1. West Virginia(10 of10)
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2012 score: 44.8Treatment of class-action suits: 5th-worstDamages: the worstAdmissibility of evidence: the worstJudges' impartiality: the worstA whopping 29 percent of respondents gave the state an F for how it assesses damages, while another 22 percent gave it a D, making West Virginia the worst state in that category. While the state has a $500,000 cap on noneconomic damages in cases where a plaintiff suffers serious medical harm, it is unclear whether it only applies to medical doctors and hospitals or if it can be defined more broadly. This debate was reopened after a family was awarded $91.5 million after an 87-year old woman living at a nursing home died from dehydration. The verdict included $11.5 million in compensatory damages. Respondents to the ILR also had deep misgivings about judge and jury fairness. The state ranked at the bottom in terms of judge impartiality, and second from the bottom in judge competence and jury fairness.Read more at 24/7 Wall St. (credit:<a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marshall_County_Courthouse_West_Virginia.jpg" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="MediaWiki:" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marshall_County_Courthouse_West_Virginia.jpg" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="1" data-vars-position-in-unit="1">MediaWiki:</a><a target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Malepheasant" role="link" class=" js-entry-link cet-external-link" data-vars-item-name="Malepheasant" data-vars-item-type="text" data-vars-unit-name="5bb2e8c4e4b0480ca65e7f94" data-vars-unit-type="buzz_body" data-vars-target-content-id="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Malepheasant" data-vars-target-content-type="url" data-vars-type="web_external_link" data-vars-subunit-name="before_you_go_slideshow" data-vars-subunit-type="component" data-vars-position-in-subunit="2" data-vars-position-in-unit="2">Malepheasant</a>)