Australia's Defense Minister Is Asked To Name ISIS' Leader, Fails

Australia's Defense Minister Is Asked To Name ISIS' Leader, Fails
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SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - FEBRUARY 02: Australian Minister for Defence, Kevin Andrews addresses the media during a press conference at Admiralty House as part of AUKMIN on February 2, 2015 in Sydney, Australia. The UK Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Philip Hammond and the UK Secretary of State for Defence, Michael Fallon, are currently in Australia for the AUKMIN foreign affairs and defence meetings. (Photo by Lisa Maree Williams/Getty Images)

Hours after the Australian government announced it was sending 330 troops to Iraq on a training mission, the country's defense minister, Kevin Andrews, appeared unable to answer a simple question quite central to that mission.

In an interview with Australian Broadcasting Corporation host Leigh Sales on Tuesday, Andrews was asked to identify the top leader of the Islamic State group, and what was being done to capture him. Instead of answering the question, Andrews said that the militant group has "a cadre" of leaders and that there's "fluidity" between its organizations.

Shutting down Andrews' bit of verbal gymnastics, Sales asked for clarification by saying "no, but there is a leader and a cabinet of IS."

Andrews continued talking past the host, however, leading Sales to repeat her question: "Who is the leader and what is the focus on his capture?" The defense minister dodge once more, refusing to go into "operational matters."

Undeterred, Sales broke down the question to its simplest point, which led to this cripplingly embarrassing exchange:

Andrews went on to give a vague response in which he stated "ISIL operates not just in Iraq but across Syria as well and there is fluidity between groups."

The disparity between the troop committal and the minister's evasiveness was not lost on the host, who told Andrews:

Minister, you're responsible for putting Australian men and women in harm's way in the cause of this mission. I'm surprised that you can't tell me the name of Islamic State's leader. The U.S. State Department has a $10 million bounty on his head.

The Islamic State group is led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has been a central figure in group's rise and holds ultimate power over the militants. Al-Baghdadi has been described as the most wanted terrorist in the world.

Andrews later promoted the interview on his official Twitter account:

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In this Monday, March 30, 2015 file photo Iraqi security forces launch a rocket against Islamic State extremist positions during clashes in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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This Monday, March 30, 2015 file photo shows an injured Iraqi officer waiting for treatment on the front line during clashes with Islamic State extremists in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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This Monday, March 30, 2015 file photo shows a member of the Iraqi security forces running to plant the national flag as they surround Tikrit during clashes to regain the city from Islamic State militants, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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In this Thursday, April 2, 2015 file photo, Iraqi security forces deploy in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, a day after Iraqi security forces backed by Shiite militiamen took control of the city from Islamic State militants. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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In this Monday, March 30, 2015 file photo, Iraqi security forces attack Islamic State extremists as they take up positions next to the bodies of Islamic State fighters in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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In this Sunday, March 31, 2015 file photo, Iraqi security forces launch rockets against Islamic State extremist positions in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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In this Friday, April 3, 2015 file photo, an Iraqi soldier plays his guitar atop his armored vehicle on the main road between Baghdad and Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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In this Monday, March 30, 2015 file photo, an Iraqi officer shouts orders as they attack Islamic State extremists Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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Iraqi security forces chant slogans against the Islamic State group after opening the main gate of their base that was closed for months in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Friday, April 3, 2015. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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Shiite militiamen celebrate at one of Saddam Hussein's palaces in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Friday, April 3, 2015. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)