Charlie Wilson On How He Has Maintained Relevancy In Music For Decades

The R&B-funk veteran also shared his thoughts on Bruno Mars.
|
Open Image Modal
The former Gap Band member talked to The Huffington Post about recording “In It To Win It.”
P Music Group

Charlie Wilson has a proven record of overcoming the odds, and his latest album is a testament to his perseverance. 

The 64-year-old R&B-funk veteran landed on the top of the charts in February with the release of his eighth solo album, “In It To Win It.” Featuring collaborations from the likes of Snoop Dogg, Robin Thicke, Lalah Hathaway, Pitbull and Wiz Khalifa, the project debuted at No. 1 on the R&B Album chart, No. 7 on the Billboard 200 and No. 2 on the Billboard Top Album Sales chart. Adding to Wilson’s list of current achievements, the album’s lead single, “I’m Blessed,” featuring T.I., is currently this year’s fastest-growing single on the Billboard Adult R&B chart.

Wilson, who is also a New York Times best-selling author, is headlining a 30-city “In It To Win It Tour” with special guests Fantasia and Johnny Gill.

The former Gap Band member spoke to The Huffington Post about recording “In It To Win It,” and shared some of his secrets to maintaining relevancy for decades and his thoughts on Bruno Mars recapturing the essence of funk music.

Congratulations on the success of your new album, “In It To Win It.” How does it feel to land chart-topping success at this stage in your career?

It’s what I’ve always wanted. I wanted to make sure that I had a record that would make a statement. I’m excited to have the look of the pop thing going with it. I think that anything that I have on my album has that appeal, and I hope that everybody can look at this record and understand that it’s a special piece. This is a time where people are digitally downloading the one song, and for me to have an album of great records and features, it’s just so beautiful and so fresh, and I’m going for the whole thing. I think it speaks in volumes, what I’m doing. So I’m happy.

How important was it for you to tap a new circle of collaborators, who typically would fall outside of your core adult contemporary demographic? 

I think my fans need to go along with where I’m going. If they gonna connect with me and stay with me, then I need to take them along for this journey that I’m on. I’ve been tapping lightly for so many years, trying to stay loyal to the close fans. But I also have fans that are so very, very young.  And so, I have fans from 10 to 20 and they always tell me, “Uncle Charlie, [the only song we know] is ‘Charlie, Last Name Wilson.’” And I was like, OK, so I need to continue to reach out and make records that all of my fans can understand and love and appreciate.

So I just thought that I would get some of these artists that I know would love and appreciate me now, get them on my record and bring their fans along with me on my journey. And my younger fans can appreciate some of the things that I’m doing this time around. And my older fans can just understand that you gotta stay young and fresh. So I have to keep everybody active, and go on this journey and party like a rock star.

On the album’s title track, you talk about your experiences overcoming racism, homelessness and substance abuse. What prompted you to record the track? 

I thought people needed to hear it. There’s a lot of people still doing the same things I did, even when I was a young man. A lot of people that I still know that was getting high with me when I was in my 20s and 30s, they’re still getting high. I’m like, “Are you serious? You haven’t moved on? You’re still sitting on that same front porch?” That’s not good at all. What baton are you passing, and who are you passing it to? Because if that’s all you’re doing then you’re teaching your kids and your grandkids to be an alcoholic and a dope head. And so, I have to continue to give a message of self-hope and next-level hope. 

People always told me that I was too old to get to where I’m at now. They said I wouldn’t ever do this, and I wouldn’t ever do that. It used to hurt me so much to have people tell me that, but until I did not listen to what they were saying and got up to make a difference and do something about it, I didn’t get to where I wanted until I started believing in myself. I started making No. 1 records. And so, I just wanna continue to inspire people and make them understand, no matter what people say about you ― you could be 30, 40, 50, 60 years old ― you could go do whatever you wanna do and be bossin’ at it. But you gotta believe you can do it.  

Open Image Modal
"People always told me that I was too old to get to where I’m at now. They said I wouldn’t ever do this, and I wouldn’t ever do that. It used to hurt me so much to have people tell me that," Wilson said.
David Corio via Getty Images

So many veteran artists often find challenges appealing to today’s generation of listeners. But yet, you’ve managed to net success while staying true to your core sound. What’s your secret to longevity and remaining relevant in music?

I’m a leader, and I’m not copying anybody. You see everybody out here listening to music and just trying to copy that music. I’m not copying any of that. If you listen to some of the biggest records in the world, you’re gonna hear some Charlie Wilson riffs in it. I’m not trying to make a record for another genre, I’m just making great records and I’m staying fresh. I know what’s out there, but I’m not gonna make a record like that. I’m just gonna make sure that my records stay fresh for the time we’re in. And I make timeless records. I always have.   

In recent years, popular artists like Bruno Mars have landed success with funk-driven singles like [Mark Ronson’s] “Uptown Funk” and “24K Magic.” What are your thoughts on the resurgence of funk music coming full circle to popular music?

It’s great. For him to use “Oops Upside Your Head” as a template for [”Uptown Funk”], I thought it was great. If people like myself or the genre that I came from started making funk records, you know what [listeners] gonna say, right? “It sounds dated.” So, hey, man, sometimes it takes other people to make the record to wake up the funk world. And so it’s great, man. I’m happy and I love Bruno Mars. He’s one of the biggest artists we got out there in the pop world and he’s doing it really well.

I’m glad that he’s funking, and he sounds really, really good. I’ve seen him several times and we’ve talked. He understands the stage. And he’s going hard.

Open Image Modal
P Music Group

Our 2024 Coverage Needs You

As Americans head to the polls in 2024, the very future of our country is at stake. At HuffPost, we believe that a free press is critical to creating well-informed voters. That's why our journalism is free for everyone, even though other newsrooms retreat behind expensive paywalls.

Our journalists will continue to cover the twists and turns during this historic presidential election. With your help, we'll bring you hard-hitting investigations, well-researched analysis and timely takes you can't find elsewhere. Reporting in this current political climate is a responsibility we do not take lightly, and we thank you for your support.

to keep our news free for all.

Support HuffPost

Before You Go

Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(01 of33)
Open Image Modal
Little Richard (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(02 of33)
Open Image Modal
Ray Charles (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(03 of33)
Open Image Modal
James Brown (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(04 of33)
Open Image Modal
Chubby Checker (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(05 of33)
Open Image Modal
Chuck Berry (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(06 of33)
Open Image Modal
Aretha Franklin (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(07 of33)
Open Image Modal
B.B. King (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(08 of33)
Open Image Modal
Bo Didley (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(09 of33)
Open Image Modal
Marvin Gaye (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(10 of33)
Open Image Modal
Smokey Robinson (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(11 of33)
Open Image Modal
Berry Gordy (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(12 of33)
Open Image Modal
The Supremes (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(13 of33)
Open Image Modal
Stevie Wonder (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(14 of33)
Open Image Modal
Louis Armstrong (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(15 of33)
Open Image Modal
Miles Davis (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(16 of33)
Open Image Modal
Jimi Hendrix (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(17 of33)
Open Image Modal
The Isley Brothers (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(18 of33)
Open Image Modal
Earth, Wind & Fire (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(19 of33)
Open Image Modal
Etta James (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(20 of33)
Open Image Modal
Michael Jackson (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(21 of33)
Open Image Modal
Nat King Cole (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(22 of33)
Open Image Modal
Al Green (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(23 of33)
Open Image Modal
Sly Family Stone (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(24 of33)
Open Image Modal
Prince (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(25 of33)
Open Image Modal
Parliament-Funkadelic (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(26 of33)
Open Image Modal
Run-DMC (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(27 of33)
Open Image Modal
Allen Toussaint (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(28 of33)
Open Image Modal
Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(29 of33)
Open Image Modal
Leon Huff and Kenneth Gamble (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(30 of33)
Open Image Modal
Bobby Womack (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(31 of33)
Open Image Modal
Public Enemy (credit:AP)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(32 of33)
Open Image Modal
Quincy Jones (credit:Getty Images)
Black Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers Through The Years(33 of33)
Open Image Modal
Donna Summer (credit:AP)