DHS Chief Acknowledges Border 'Wall' Might Not Be An Actual Wall

“It’s unlikely that we will build a wall or physical barrier from sea to shining sea."

WASHINGTON ― The Trump administration still has no idea what the president’s promised “impenetrable, physical, tall, powerful, beautiful southern border wall” will look like. But it’s unlikely to be an actual wall “from sea to shining sea,” Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said Wednesday.

Speaking before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Kelly said his department would do whatever makes the most sense to secure the border, even if that means adding fencing and technology rather than constructing a wall.

“The president has told me, ‘Kelly, go do it.’ We need to protect the southwest border in any way that that makes sense,” Kelly said. “I have a lot of elbow room.”

He added: “The president knows that I’m looking at every variation on the theme and I have no doubt when I go back to him and say, ‘You know boss, wall makes sense here, fencing ― high-tech fencing ― makes sense over here, technology makes sense over here,’ I have no doubt that he will go tell me to do it.”

Building a “real wall” was a central promise of President Donald Trump’s campaign ― and one that almost certainly won’t happen in the way he said it would. The president and his surrogates have been laying the groundwork for this retreat for months, saying the “wall” wouldn’t need to span the entire border, could be technological, and could supplement existing fencing, even though the president has criticized that fencing and publicly claimed a new wall was necessary. If the muddle is successful, it would mean Trump could add some border fencing and technology, and then claim victory for creating his wall without actually building the new structure he promised.

Kelly said before his confirmation as homeland security secretary that he did not think a wall itself would resolve border security issues, and has said since that in some areas, physical barriers would be unnecessary or impractical.

On Wednesday, he again said he doesn’t expect to build a 2,000-mile wall, based on recommendations from Customs and Border Protection agents about what they think would help prevent illegal entries.

“It’s unlikely that we will build a wall or physical barrier from sea to shining sea, but it is very likely ― I’m committed to putting it where the men and women say we should put it,” Kelly said.

He said he wasn’t sure what such a project would cost, or what it would look like. The department is still in an early phase of the process ― contractor submissions for border wall prototype proposals ended at the end of Tuesday.

“What it’ll look like, how tall it will be, how thick it will be, what color it will be, is yet to be determined,” Kelly said. “All we know is that physical barriers do work if they’re put in the right places.”

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How Donald Trump Talks About Undocumented Immigrants
April 2015(01 of11)
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At an event hosted by Texas Patriots PAC: “Everything’s coming across the border: the illegals, the cars, the whole thing. It’s like a big mess. Blah. It’s like vomit.” (credit:Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
June 2015(02 of11)
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At a speech announcing his campaign: "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." (credit:Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
August 2015(03 of11)
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On NBC's "Meet the Press": “We’re going to keep the families together, we have to keep the families together, but they have to go." (credit:Steve Pope/Getty Images)
September 2015(04 of11)
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On CBS's "60 Minutes": “We’re rounding ‘em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way. And they’re going to be happy because they want to be legalized. And, by the way, I know it doesn’t sound nice. But not everything is nice.” (credit:David Jolkovski/The Washington Post via Getty Images)
November 2015(05 of11)
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On MSNBC's "Morning Joe": “You are going to have a deportation force, and you are going to do it humanely." (credit:Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)
February 2016(06 of11)
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At a GOP primary debate: “We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out. They will come back ― some will come back, the best, through a process.” (credit:Scott Olson/Getty Images)
March 2016(07 of11)
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At a press conference when asked if he would consider allowing undocumented immigrants to stay: "We either have a country or we don’t. We either have a country or we don’t. We have borders or we don’t have borders. And at this moment, the answer is absolutely not.” (credit:Scott Olson/Getty Images)
April 2016(08 of11)
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At an event hosted by NBC's "Today Show": “They’re going to go, and we’re going to create a path where we can get them into this country legally, OK? But it has to be done legally. ... They’re going to go, and then come back and come back legally.” (credit:Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images)
July 2016(09 of11)
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At the Republican National Convention: "Tonight, I want every American whose demands for immigration security have been denied ― and every politician who has denied them ― to listen very closely to the words I am about to say. On January 21st of 2017, the day after I take the oath of office, Americans will finally wake up in a country where the laws of the United States are enforced." (credit:Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images)
September 2016(10 of11)
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At a rally: “Anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country. Otherwise we don’t have a country.” (credit:Ralph Freso/Getty Images)
September 2016(11 of11)
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On "The Dr. Oz Show": “Well, under my plan the undocumented or, as you would say, illegal immigrant wouldn’t be in the country. They only come in the country legally.” (credit:Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg via Getty Images)