Anti-Abortion Lawmaker Makes Argument For Abortion Rights

Anti-Abortion Lawmaker Makes Argument For Abortion Rights
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A Republican state legislator who generally opposes abortion said he is concerned about a controversial anti-abortion bill introduced by one of his colleagues because it would infringe on a woman's bodily autonomy.

At a Tuesday state House committee hearing, Missouri Rep. Ron Hicks mentioned a bill that would require a woman seeking an abortion to obtain notarized consent from the father of the fetus, with no exemption for women in domestic violence situations.

A video of his remarks was filmed and posted by Progress Missouri, a progressive advocacy group. The hearing was held at a private country club, a practice that has been common with the committees and was banned by the state speaker as of Wednesday.

Hicks, who said he "can totally get [the bill] and understand it," talked about his reservations with the legislation.

"There is a piece of legislation we’re actually watching, I wanna see how it turns out," Hicks said. "That's the one about father’s rights to a woman who’s pregnant with a child. I can totally get it and understand it, I just don’t know how you would do something like that. I mean bottom line, it’s still her body. How do you do something like that? I’m curious to see who says yes, who says no. I’ve been asking certain people outside the Dome what they think and so far they don’t like it. Male and female, for that matter. None of the women like that idea at all."

The bill, which has not yet moved in the state House, was introduced in December by state Rep. Rick Brattin (R). It would likely face legal challenges were it to pass, since the Supreme Court ruled spousal notification unconstitutional in its 1992 Planned Parenthood v. Casey decision.

"I know when my wife saw it she was like, 'What?' and I was like, 'Oh,'" Hicks explained of the bill.

He said he had promised his wife that he would track the bill's progress.

"When your wife goes, 'What is this?' and it has something to do with legislation and the bedroom, you pay attention," he said.

Brattin could not be reached for comment on Hicks' remarks.

Hicks told The Huffington Post on Thursday that he doesn't yet know how he will vote on Brattin's bill if it reaches the state House floor.

"This is a bill that has me a little baffled, to tell you the truth, it's really complex and it's really difficult," he said. "I'm curious to hear Rick explain his bill. No matter how many times you read a bill, you can miss things. I'm going to listen to both sides on this, it's the first time something's baffled me to this extent. I want to see this through so I can make an informed and educated decision."

Hicks said he is also concerned the abortion-seeking patient might not be able to track down the father.

"What if she cannot find the guy?" he asked.

And he distinguished his concerns about the notification bill from his general opposition to abortion.

"I'm Catholic, that's my religion. I'm not going to force it on someone else," he said. "I don't think this particular bill is dealing with that, this is dealing with someone else."

Though Hicks has introduced legislation requiring that an ultrasound be performed 24 hours before an abortion (which would require that a survivor of rape report the crime to law enforcement before being able to obtain the exemption it includes), he said he is worried the notification bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship.

"I don't want to police a woman's relationship with her doctor," he said.

Missouri's Democratic governor, Jay Nixon, generally opposes restrictions on abortion access. However, Republicans in both chambers of the state legislature have majorities large enough to override his vetoes.

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Abortion Protests Around The Nation
Texas (01 of17)
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FILE - In this July 12, 2013 file photo, anti-abortion rights supporter Katherine Aguilar holds a crucifix and prays while opponents and supporters of abortion rights gather in the State Capitol rotunda in Austin, Texas. Nearly three-quarters of Texas' 18 abortion facilities would be forced to close by the end of Aug. 2014 if one of the nation's toughest new anti-abortion laws is allowed to take effect, attorneys for clinics challenging the law told a federal judge Monday, Aug. 4, 2014. (AP Photo/Tamir Kalifa, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Colorado (02 of17)
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Demonstrators rally against Colorado Senate Bill 175, in a protest led by Archbishop of Denver Samuel J. Aquila, on the steps of the state capitol in Denver, Tuesday April 15, 2014. The bill up for debate Tuesday is described as a guarantee that state or local policies won't interfere with reproductive decisions such as abortion and contraception. Democratic sponsors say the measure is needed to protect women's rights. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Georgia (03 of17)
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Georgia Sen. Donzella James, D-Atlanta, left, and Sen. Valencia Seay, D-Riverdale, right, hold up coat hangers with pictures of the Statue of Liberty attached while protesting against an abortion bill sponsored by Sen. Judson Hill, RâMarietta, rear, on the Senate floor, Monday, March 3, 2014, in Atlanta. The Georgia Senate has voted to approve a bill restricting abortion coverage in plans available through the state health insurance exchange.State senators voted 35-18 to advance the bill, which now heads to the House for consideration. The federal health care law allows states to draft legislation prohibiting abortion coverage in qualified health plans offered through an exchange. Supporters of the Georgia effort say 24 states have done so. Democrats opposed the bill, calling it a continuation of a "war on women" and saying it infringes on a woman's right to choose. (AP Photo/David Goldman) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
North Dakota(04 of17)
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FILE - This Feb. 20, 2013 file photo shows a protester outside the Red River Valley Women's Clinic, the state's sole abortion provider, in Fargo, N.D. The clinic has entered into settlement talks on a lawsuit it filed last year against a new law that requires doctors who perform abortions to obtain hospital-admitting privileges. (AP Photo/Dave Kolpack, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Louisiana (05 of17)
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Ellie Schilling, center, a lawyer representing Louisiana abortion clinics, speaks at a protest outside the Department of Health and Hospitals building on Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2013, in Baton Rouge, La. Abortion rights supporters say DHH issued rules that would have shut down all of the state's abortion clinics. The department rescinded the rules this week. (AP Photo/Melinda Deslatte) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
California (06 of17)
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Abortion opponents gather in San Francisco's Civic Center for the "Walk for Life" rally and march, Saturday, Jan. 25, 2014, in San Francisco. Thousands of abortion opponents marched through downtown San Francisco for the 10th annual "Walk for Life West Coast." The protesters rallied at Civic Center Plaza in front of City Hall before marching down Market Street to Justin Herman Plaza. (AP Photo/Beck Diefenbach) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Kansas(07 of17)
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Abortion opponents from across Kansas rally outside the Statehouse, Wednesday, Jan. 22, 2014, in Topeka, Kan. Hundreds marked the anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion nationwide. (AP Photo/John Hanna) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Washington(08 of17)
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Anti-abortion demonstrators rally at the annual March for Life on the National Mall in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 22, 2014. Thousands of anti-abortion demonstrators are gathering in Washington for an annual march to protest the Supreme Court's landmark 1973 decision that declared a constitutional right to abortion. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Washington (09 of17)
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Pro-choice demonstrators rally outside the Supreme Court in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 22, 2014. Thousands of abortion opponents are facing wind chills in the single digits to rally and march on Capitol Hill to protest legalized abortion, with a signal of support from Pope Francis. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
North Dakota(10 of17)
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FILE - In this March 25, 2013, file photo Kris Kitko, left, leads chants of protest at an abortion-rights rally at the state Capitol in Bismarck, N.D. Abortion-rights advocates filed a lawsuit in federal court June 25, 2013, in Bismarck, N.D., challenging two new North Dakota laws that impose the nation's toughest abortion restrictions. (AP Photo/James MacPherson, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Massachusetts(11 of17)
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BOSTON - JUNE 28: Congregants from Immaculate Conception Parish in Everett, Mass. recited the rosary outside Planned Parenthood in Boston, Mass. on June 28 2014. (Photo by Wendy Maeda/The Boston Globe via Getty Images) (credit:Boston Globe via Getty Images)
Mississippi(12 of17)
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FILE - This Nov. 21, 2013 file photo shows abortion support signs outside of the Jackson Women's Health Organization clinic in Jackson, Miss. A federal appeals court panel ruled Tuesday, July 29, 2014 that a Mississippi law that would close the state's only abortion clinic is unconstitutional. (AP Photo/Rogelio V. Solis, File) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Alabama(13 of17)
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Demonstrators gather outside the Alabama Statehouse in Montgomery, Ala., Tuesday, April 2, 2013. About 100 Pro-Choice demonstrators gathered to voice their opinions to lawmakers who were gathering inside the Statehouse for the second half of the regular legislative session. (AP Photo/Dave Martin) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Missouri (14 of17)
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Abortion-rights supporters Dina van der Zalm, right, and Allyson Junker stand on the steps of the Missouri Capitol Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2014, in Jefferson City, Mo. Missouri lawmakers are expected to consider whether to override a veto by Gov. Jay Nixon of legislation requiring a 72-hour waiting period for abortions, one of the longest mandatory delays in the nation, during a special legislative session that begins Wednesday. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
New York (15 of17)
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Opponents to expanded abortion rights in New York state hold signs at the Capitol on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, in Albany, N.Y. Part of Gov. Andrew Cuomo's 10-point women's rights legislation aims to codify the federal Roe v. Wade decision on abortion rights into state law. (AP Photo/Mike Groll) (credit:ASSOCIATED PRESS)
North Carolina (16 of17)
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Ruth Bromer, 63 of Raleigh, North Carolina (foreground) and Jennifer Hesse, 34, of Cary (center) shout slogans on the BiCentennial Plaza across from the Legislative Building as the North Carolina Senate gave its approval to a series of abortion restrictions Wednesday, July 3, 2013 in Raleigh, North Carolina. The bill, when originally introduced prohibited the recognition of foreign law, such as Islamic Sharia law, in family courts, was changed Tuesday with little public notice and the new bill titled the Family, Faith and Freedom Protection Act, added anti-abortion legislation. Senators voted 29-12 to approve House Bill 695. (Chuck Liddy/Raleigh News & Observer/MCT via Getty Images) (credit:Raleigh News & Observer via Getty Images)
North Carolina (17 of17)
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The Senate gallery is already at capacity before session starts Wednesday July 3, 2013, in Raleigh, North Carolina. House bill 695, when originally introduced prohibited the recognition of foreign law, such as Islamic Sharia law, in family courts, was changed Tuesday with little public notice and the new bill titled the Family, Faith and Freedom Protection Act, added anti-abortion legislation. Senators voted 29-12 to approve House Bill 695. (Chuck Liddy/Raleigh News & Observer/MCT via Getty Images) (credit:Raleigh News & Observer via Getty Images)