Gun Bill: Republicans May Filibuster Each Amendent For Days, Democrats Warn

Republicans May Filibuster Each Gun Bill Amendent For Days
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WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans who adamantly oppose new gun restrictions may stall votes on each amendment to the legislation for days, a Senate Democratic leadership aide warned Thursday in a memo.

Many Republicans who are at least somewhat supportive of new gun laws have said they would only go along if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) permits what they described as a full and open amendment process. That means plenty of opportunities to offer tweaks to the legislation and line up votes.

But the memo warned that some senators among the dozen who have vowed to filibuster gun legislation are threatening to maintain their opposition not just to the overall bill, but to every amendment along the way. They could do that, said the aide's memo, by demanding 60-member cloture votes at every step of the process, potentially burning through four days for every single amendment.

"Sen. Reid has said repeatedly that he wants to facilitate an open amendment process on the gun violence bill," the memo said. "But a small minority of Republicans (you can guess who) are threatening to force us to spend up to four days to set up each amendment vote."

Usually in the Senate when there are numerous amendments, both sides negotiate a "unanimous consent" agreement, or U.C., and hold a "vote-a-rama" on a string of them, one after the other, as they did last month in passing a budget resolution.

"But if we are unable to secure a U.C., we have to file cloture on each individual amendment," the note said, explaining how the slowdown would work. "That would take up to four days per amendment vote: we file cloture on Amendment X on Monday. Tuesday is the intervening day, and a cloture vote on the motion to end debate on the amendment occurs Wednesday morning (60-vote threshold). If cloture is invoked, there are another 30 hours of debate, pushing the final passage vote into Thursday evening."

A Republican leadership aide, speaking anonymously to be frank, said the memo was one of "stupidest things" he'd ever heard, and said the scenario was mythical. The aide argued that any legislative insider should know that the Senate does not even make an amendment part of the pending business unless there's a consent agreement first, and neither side makes an agreement if the other will stall for four days.

"I'm embarrassed for whoever thought that up," the GOP aide said, adding that the more realistic scenario would be a failure of the sides to agree on what they would allow to become pending.

Either way, a standoff over gun bill amendments could sink new filibuster rules the Senate agreed to in January -- a deal that many reformers decried as too weak. If the deal had eliminated the 30-hour periods or required talking filibusters, for instance, the threat of four-day amendments would be moot.

Under rules that were passed, leaders can squash filibusters on motions to get on to bills and speed up the process -- but only by giving each side two amendments, each with simple majority votes.

It would be risky for Democrats to try that with the gun bill, because Republicans may be able to find 51 votes for measures that most Democrats would find toxic, such as allowing concealed-carry permits to be valid anywhere in America. Indeed, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said recently that he could get a simple majority for an alternative GOP-led gun bill that he is working on.

Democrats could resort to other tactics that would limit the number of amendments to only those that Democrats want -- a process known as "filling the tree" -- but that would also seem to run counter to the filibuster agreement, and would risk antagonizing Republicans who support some gun legislation. "That would probably blow up the whole bill," the GOP aide said.

If push comes to shove, Reid would abide by his pledge to hold some key votes on certain amendments Democrats want, but which are likely to fail, the Democratic aide said.

"To be clear, Sen. Reid will ensure that we hold votes on the assault weapons ban and limits to high-capacity magazines," said the aide. "But having a truly open amendment process is going to require Republican cooperation, not filibusters on each individual amendment. And yes, we are still seeking an agreement to actually get on the bill."

The Senate on Thursday voted to begin debate on a motion to proceed to debate on the gun bill, starting a 30-hour clock for holding the vote on actually proceeding. The first substantive vote -- likely an amendment to expand background checks -- would not happen until Tuesday.

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People Who Want More Guns In Schools
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) (01 of09)
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"I wish to God she had had an m-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out ... and takes him out and takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids," Gohmert said of slain principal Dawn Hochsprung on Fox News Sunday. He argued that shooters often choose schools because they know people will be unarmed. (credit:WikiMedia:)
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R)(02 of09)
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"If people were armed, not just a police officer, but other school officials that were trained and chose to have a weapon, certainly there would be an opportunity to stop an individual trying to get into the school," he told WTOP's "Ask the Governor" show Tuesday, warning that Washington may respond to such a policy with a "knee-jerk reaction." (credit:WikiMedia:)
Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) & State Sen. Frank Niceley (R)(03 of09)
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Gov. Haslam says he will consider a Tennessee plan to secretly arm and train some teachers, TPM reports. The legislation will be introduced by State Sen. Frank Niceley (R) next month. "Say some madman comes in. The first person he would probably try to take out was the resource officer. But if he doesn’t know which teacher has training, then he wouldn’t know which one had [a gun]," Niceley told TPM. "These guys are obviously cowards anyway and if someone starts shooting back, they’re going to take cover, maybe go ahead and commit suicide like most of them have." (credit:AP)
Oklahoma State Rep. Mark McCullough (R) & State Sen. Ralph Shortey (R) (04 of09)
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State Rep. Mark McCullough (R) told the Tulsa World he plans to file legislation that would bring guns into schools, calling their absence "irresponsible." “It is incredibly irresponsible to leave our schools undefended – to allow mad men to kill dozens of innocents when we have a very simple solution available to us to prevent it," he said. "I’ve been considering this proposal for a long time. In light of the savagery on display in Connecticut, I believe it’s an idea whose time has come."Sen. Ralph Shortey (R) told the Tulsa World that teachers should carry concealed weapons at school events. "Allowing teachers and administrators with concealed-carry permits the ability to have weapons at school events would provide both a measure of security for students and a deterrent against attackers," he said. (credit:WikiMedia:)
Florida State Rep. Dennis Baxley (R)(05 of09)
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Baxley, who once sponsored Florida's controversial Stand Your Ground law, told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune that keeping guns out of schools makes them a target for attacks.“We need to be more realistic at looking at this policy," he said. "In our zealousness to protect people from harm we’ve created all these gun-free zones and what we’ve inadvertently done is we’ve made them a target. A helpless target is exactly what a deranged person is looking for where they cannot be stopped.” (credit:AP)
Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R)(06 of09)
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At a Tea Party event Monday night, Perry praised a Texas school system that allows some staff to carry concealed weapons to work and encouraged local school districts to make their own policies. (credit:WikiMedia:)
Minnesota State Rep. Tony Cornish (R) (07 of09)
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Oregon State Rep. Dennis Richardson (R)(08 of09)
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In an email obtained by Gawker and excerpted below, Richardson tells three superintendents that he could have saved lives had he been armed and in Sandy Hook on Friday:
If I had been a teacher or the principal at the Sandy Hook Elementary School and if the school district did not preclude me from having access to a firearm, either by concealed carry or locked in my desk, most of the murdered children would still be alive, and the gunman would still be dead, and not by suicide....[O]ur children's safety depends on having a number of well-trained school employees on every campus who are prepared to defend our children and save their lives?
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Former Education Secretary Bill Bennett(09 of09)
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"And I'm not so sure -- and I'm sure I'll get mail for this -- I'm not so sure I wouldn't want one person in a school armed, ready for this kind of thing," Bennett, who served as education secretary under Ronald Reagan, told Meet the Press Sunday. "The principal lunged at this guy. The school psychologist lunged at the guy. It has to be someone who's trained, responsible. But, my god, if you can prevent this kind of thing, I think you ought to." (credit:Getty Images)